Sabertooth__

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With a attitude like that, he would not go that far.
He is not delivering content on time, making excuses, calling his own patrons rats and Calling his supporters pirates who made his game famous, deleting negative reviews about his game, only making game available to VIP patrons via email.
Who he think he is. If he really concerned about privacy and really hate piracy then why did he made a profile here on f95zone and even answered some questions in past. He should know that his game will be uploaded here with or without his consent.
I don't remember him calling his patrons rats. He called those people rats who keep pestering him to release the game and then abuse him for the content in it, people who cross their line in the name of criticisms, who repeated troll him over the same things. There is only so much a human can take.

You say he deleted negative reviews and then in the next paragraph clearly mention that he has no power here. If he could delete reviews, he would also have the power to delete the teasers and game links shared here. Why don't people understand that has nothing to do with the reviews and posts being deleted.
 

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I don't remember him calling his patrons rats. He called those people rats who keep pestering him to release the game and then abuse him for the content in it, people who cross their line in the name of criticisms, who repeated troll him over the same things. There is only so much a human can take.

You say he deleted negative reviews and then in the next paragraph clearly mention that he has no power here. If he could delete reviews, he would also have the power to delete the teasers and game links shared here. Why don't people understand that has nothing to do with the reviews and posts being deleted.
I believe he was calling "rats" his patrons that leak content here.
 

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Here's a little quote from DrPinkCake's Patreon page...

"I'm working full-time on the game and my PCs are rendering images 24/7.
I promise to keep patrons updated on the progress, but I cannot give accurate estimates until an update almost is ready for release. Something to bear in mind is that I'm doing this all by myself. There's no team of developers, it's just me.

I'm creating the art and animations, writing the dialogue, programming the game, finding music with correct licenses, managing the patreon page and packaging/uploading the game.

I love to do this, but please understand that it's a huge amount of work for a single person."

With that in mind, yes, I think we CAN compare these two developers. Just that one of them is actually putting in the work while the other is slacking. Take a guess which of the two actually puts in 11 hours of work a day, and which one is just making things up.
Just because one Dev is slower than the other doesn't mean the other person is slacking. DPC has his own ways of working and L&P has his own. The pace of rendering also depends on the angles and characters and other details taken into each render.
L&P is slow but the cause for it is his restraining work style not being extremely lazy, and he is not changing it which is the worst part about him. A second major cause can be the fact that he gets lost in the details a lot. I understand that because I more less want my things to look perfect too. If I write an entire page but it ends up having a scratch or a spot, I would rather write the whole thing again or do my best to get rid of the spot. I wouldn't care about the time that is going into it. The fact that he adds fashion labels ( mentioned by Alley_Cat ) also takes time. A lot of little things that go unnoticed in his renders actually take time.
Also he is not bound under a contract to deliver at a specific time. He wanted freedom in his work and he gets it here. No boss, no supervisor, he works as he likes. From our perspective not good at all but the fact that no one monitors him can easily lead to him putting in a lot of time in a single render or scene etc.
 

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I believe he was calling "rats" his patrons that leak content here.
As far as I remember he said it to the people on the thread. Who mock him here and then immediately at the time of release go to his patreon just to leak the game. Not his actual supporters. The rat thing was most definitely for the people on the thread.
 
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Sabertooth__

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Blow job scenes really don't cut it. And the very idea of an "adult game" with no sex is absurd. Was at least 2 years for even sex with husband. This isn't slow burn, it's glacial burn or no burn. If he's going to get hostile for any criticism he's a twunt. A good dev listens to people, ESPECIALLY patrons within reason. He could cut back on the renders - he certainly doesn't need like 4 renders every time she walks through a door. And cut back on that damn internal dialogue! You could get a book the size of War and Peace just from the internal dialogue so far. This game needs a black box warning on lack of sexual content. Who cares about the quality of renders if there are no good scenes? Most people seeing it wanted to play it as making her a total hobag. Wonder how many patrons left? Not even blueball at this point more like blackballs that have to be amputated due to the cum backup. This game must be directed towards frigid 80 year old women.
Though fans seem to be like a cult. He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize.
Who gave you the idea that an adult game must necessarily have sex scenes. Any game is classified as adult as long as it has explicit amount of gore or sexual nudity. AWAM has quite a lot of nudity and themes that can easily qualify it as an adult game. Also down the line there are going to be sex scenes, the game is still in development.
Being criticized isn't the issue. It's the mockery and abuses and these kind of statements, "He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize", that can trigger anyone, when you get 50 people saying horrible things like this on a regular basis, i can't blame him for being angry.

The game has really good scenes, they are not to your taste then you can go about playing something else that has scenes you like. The fact that L&P does not need to rely on vulgarity or even nudity to make his scenes hot is something I admire about this game. Sophia can be completed clothed and still keep the players on edge.

The renders and internal thoughts that you might consider unnecessary or waste of time are one of the things that separates this game from the rest. That adds to Sophia's character, makes her feel human. One could argue the scene of Sophia cheering Dylan up after poor results was unnecessary, her visit to the dentist and and many such scenes are unnecessary but they contribute to making Sophia feel like an actual woman with a life not just a MC hopping from one sex scene to another.

Not everyone wants to turn her into a ho. I for one just want a well written corruption story, doesn't matter what the peak of her corruption is. If Sophia became a slut by day 5 itself this game will have lost all it's appeal. The fact that he has held back, not even shown her vagina, has the players anticipating what will happen next, how will it happen, with whom will happen etc.
 
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Alley_Cat

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yes, if the 1st task of Aydn does not fall out, this will forcefully change Dylan's route, right?
If you don't do any of Aiden's tasks, yes, you cannot pursue the Sophia/Dylan route. Don't know what the cutoff point is for Dylan/Amber.

But the Dylan/Marie path remains available even with 0 Dylan points.
 

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Just because one Dev is slower than the other doesn't mean the other person is slacking. DPC has his own ways of working and L&P has his own. The pace of rendering also depends on the angles and characters and other details taken into each render.
L&P is slow but the cause for it is his restraining work style not being extremely lazy, and he is not changing it which is the worst part about him. A second major cause can be the fact that he gets lost in the details a lot. I understand that because I more less want my things to look perfect too. If I write an entire page but it ends up having a scratch or a spot, I would rather write the whole thing again or do my best to get rid of the spot. I wouldn't care about the time that is going into it. The fact that he adds fashion labels ( mentioned by Alley_Cat ) also takes time. A lot of little things that go unnoticed in his renders actually take time.
Also he is not bound under a contract to deliver at a specific time. He wanted freedom in his work and he gets it here. No boss, no supervisor, he works as he likes. From our perspective not good at all but the fact that no one monitors him can easily lead to him putting in a lot of time in a single render or scene etc.
As I've told Bane71 already, you might want to read my post following the one you quoted there. If you truly don't see or understand the current issues, I can't help you either.

But seeing your and Bane71's responds I can already imagine your reply, so I might aswell just go talk to a brick wall because it seems like understanding simple things like that can be quite hard for some people.

You could also just call the things I quote there as an "opinion" like Bane71 does, even though they are just that; Quotes. Lines of text filled with promises and claims, resulting in nothing but slowing down L&P's project further and further. But like I said, it's probably better talking to a brick wall at this point.
 

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Who gave you the idea that an adult game must necessarily have sex scenes. Any game is classified as adult as long as it has explicit amount of gore or sexual nudity. AWAM has quite a lot of nudity and themes that can easily qualify it as an adult game. Also down the line there are going to be sex scenes, the game is still in development.
Being criticized isn't the issue. It's the mockery and abuses and these kind of statements, "He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize", that can trigger anyone, when you get 50 people saying horrible things like this on a regular basis, i can't blame him for being angry.

The game has really good scenes, they are not to your taste then you can go about playing something else that has scenes you like. The fact that L&P does not need to rely on vulgarity or even nudity to make his scenes hot is something I admire about this game. Sophia can be completed clothed and still keep the players on edge.

The renders and internal thoughts that you might consider unnecessary or waste of time are one of the things that separates this game from the rest. That adds to Sophia's character, makes her feel human. One could argue the scene of Sophia cheering Dylan up after poor results was unnecessary, her visit to the dentist and and many such scenes are unnecessary but they contribute to making Sophia feel like an actual woman with a life not just a MC hopping from one sex scene to another.

Not everyone wants to turn her into a hoe. I for one just want a well written corruption story, doesn't matter what the peak of her corruption is. If Sophia became a slut by day 5 itself this game will have lost all it's appeal. The fact that he has held back, not even shown her vagina, has the players anticipating what will happen next, how will it happen, with whom will happen etc.
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If you don't do any of Aiden's tasks, yes, you cannot pursue the Sophia/Dylan route. Don't know what the cutoff point is for Dylan/Amber.

But the Dylan/Marie path remains available even with 0 Dylan points.
how do you think Dylan will save Sofia before Aydin fucks her or will he fuck her anyway ?!
 

Alley_Cat

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how do you think Dylan will save Sofia before Aydin fucks her or will he fuck her anyway ?!
No idea, I don't bother with the Sophia/Dylan route. As I've said, there isn't any content on it worth the effort I can't get in other routes.

Most of the information I have on the Sophia/Dylan route I've got from either this thread, or pulled from the code. Like it's not really worth even discussing Dylan or Aiden fucking Sophia, since it's unlikely to happen until around 2035 anyway.
 
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