| The problem was that Kubo was forced to rush the ending of Bleach. Now that the Tybw arc is airing, he himself is involved in fixing his problems. I don't think Gege was forced to rush that atrocious Gojo scene and whatever happened later on. |
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| I think part of why they got to tweak Bleach is it's been almost 10 years since it ended so they have to entice an older fanbase. JJK, like BnHA, probably won't see that level of tweaking because it's not even been a year, so most fans are still invested. Which is a shame because it'd be nice to see them fix the wonkiness |
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mechian said:
We all know Bleach got rushed near the end and the new anime is adding new scenes, fixing pacing, presumably rewriting the whole ending fight and epilogue.
Because Kubo got ill.
Seems to be the same case with JJK, GeGe is ill and just rushed the hell out of the last dozen chapters.
We all know Bleach got rushed near the end and the new anime is adding new scenes, fixing pacing, presumably rewriting the whole ending fight and epilogue.
Because Kubo got ill.
Seems to be the same case with JJK, GeGe is ill and just rushed the hell out of the last dozen chapters.
The thing is, Bleach was already good to begin with…
TheRealRouges said: TYBW was received very poorly when it was being released. Ranking near the bottom of Jump TOC almost weekly. I personally do not think the anime has "fixed" the issues with the arc. I have not read JJK so I do not know what issues would need to be fixed.The thing is, Bleach was already good to begin with… |
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The problem was that Kubo was forced to rush the ending of Bleach. Now that the Tybw arc is airing, he himself is involved in fixing his problems. I don't think Gege was forced to rush that atrocious Gojo scene and whatever happened later on.
| @FZREMAKE He was forced to rush the ending because the entire arc was trash. It was ranking below 20 for over a year in Jump before they finally said enough is enough. If you were reading weekly back, then you would understand it was painful. |
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@FZREMAKE He was forced to rush the ending because the entire arc was trash. It was ranking below 20 for over a year in Jump before they finally said enough is enough. If you were reading weekly back, then you would understand it was painful.
| @logic340 logic340 said: the entire arc was trash Troll? Anyway, I'm not going to bother discussing this with someone who has a prejudiced, negative opinion. Your bullshit doesn’t change the fact that the TYBW in the anime form was a successful adaptation and is one of the best anime of all time. Up to the third cour, there are no issues - unless you're nitpicking minor details that can easily be explained just because you fail to comprehend something in the story. But I won't bother with that, not with someone who has that attitude. I'm tired of it. Just know that you're wrong. TYBW in the manga, especially the first half, was great. Cour 1 was top 1 on MAL for around 6 months for a reason—until it got review-bombed. The second half of this arc in the manga had problems. Maybe it had worse sales, but sales numbers/popularity =/= quality. That’s it from me. |
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@FZREMAKE He was forced to rush the ending because the entire arc was trash. It was ranking below 20 for over a year in Jump before they finally said enough is enough. If you were reading weekly back, then you would understand it was painful.
| @logic340 Quite possibly the best arc in bleach and you call it trash. The anime adaptation is one of the best received anime adaptation right now. It wouldn't be if it were trash. |
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@logic340 Quite possibly the best arc in bleach and you call it trash. The anime adaptation is one of the best received anime adaptation right now. It wouldn't be if it were trash.
| @FZREMAKE the rescue is probably the best arc in Bleach had it ended there I would have given bleach a 10/10. Some of that reception is due to nostalgia imho. |
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@logic340
Troll? Anyway, I'm not going to bother discussing this with someone who has a prejudiced, negative opinion. Your bullshit doesn’t change the fact that the TYBW in the anime form was a successful adaptation and is one of the best anime of all time. Up to the third cour, there are no issues - unless you're nitpicking minor details that can easily be explained just because you fail to comprehend something in the story. But I won't bother with that, not with someone who has that attitude. I'm tired of it. Just know that you're wrong. TYBW in the manga, especially the first half, was great. Cour 1 was top 1 on MAL for around 6 months for a reason—until it got review-bombed. The second half of this arc in the manga had problems. Maybe it had worse sales, but sales numbers/popularity =/= quality. That’s it from me.
logic340 said:
the entire arc was trash
the entire arc was trash
Troll? Anyway, I'm not going to bother discussing this with someone who has a prejudiced, negative opinion. Your bullshit doesn’t change the fact that the TYBW in the anime form was a successful adaptation and is one of the best anime of all time. Up to the third cour, there are no issues - unless you're nitpicking minor details that can easily be explained just because you fail to comprehend something in the story. But I won't bother with that, not with someone who has that attitude. I'm tired of it. Just know that you're wrong. TYBW in the manga, especially the first half, was great. Cour 1 was top 1 on MAL for around 6 months for a reason—until it got review-bombed. The second half of this arc in the manga had problems. Maybe it had worse sales, but sales numbers/popularity =/= quality. That’s it from me.
| @18927 I'm not going to discuss with you...proceeds to write a short story. Anyway I'm not trolling and I'm not the only one who feels this was a bad arc. I will say I was a bit harsh on saying the entire arc was trash as Everthing but the Rain was actually some of the best Bleach, and certainly the beat we had in a long time. I'd dare it's what carried cour 1 while unable to do the same for what came after. TYBW was ranked horribly in TOC it's not trilling when the data backs up what I'm saying. Cour 3 had dropped significantly since it made it through the nostalgia wave dropping past the 50s and continues it's descent. Lastly, you're the one brining their attitude to this "discussion" I gave my option to the question asked I wasn't rude to you or anyone else here. You're the one calling people trolls and talking shit. Whoever hurt you wasn't me you'd do good to remember that the next time you washout at someone on the internet when they have a different opinion than your own. I'll end thing here. I hope whatever issues you have resolved, stay blessed. |
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@18927 I'm not going to discuss with you...proceeds to write a short story. Anyway I'm not trolling and I'm not the only one who feels this was a bad arc. I will say I was a bit harsh on saying the entire arc was trash as Everthing but the Rain was actually some of the best Bleach, and certainly the beat we had in a long time. I'd dare it's what carried cour 1 while unable to do the same for what came after. TYBW was ranked horribly in TOC it's not trilling when the data backs up what I'm saying. Cour 3 had dropped significantly since it made it through the nostalgia wave dropping past the 50s and continues it's descent.
Lastly, you're the one brining their attitude to this "discussion" I gave my option to the question asked I wasn't rude to you or anyone else here. You're the one calling people trolls and talking shit. Whoever hurt you wasn't me you'd do good to remember that the next time you washout at someone on the internet when they have a different opinion than your own. I'll end thing here. I hope whatever issues you have resolved, stay blessed.
Lastly, you're the one brining their attitude to this "discussion" I gave my option to the question asked I wasn't rude to you or anyone else here. You're the one calling people trolls and talking shit. Whoever hurt you wasn't me you'd do good to remember that the next time you washout at someone on the internet when they have a different opinion than your own. I'll end thing here. I hope whatever issues you have resolved, stay blessed.
| @logic340 don't you know that it's against the law to say anything bad about the overrated anime that used to be number 1 mal at one time! you're not allowed to have a negative opinion because it was ranked number 1 on a random site! it's not like the manga is ranked lower than 1000 on the same site! lol yeah bleach meatriders get really sensitive ever since 2022 when they came out of their caves again. shouldn't bother responding to such a goofy fanbase that thinks being ranked 1 on mal is more important than manga sales- something that actually helps support the creators/industry lmao. |
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| I don't know where the idea that Blood War or Bleach as a whole needs to be fixed comes from, but it clearly doesn't. |
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FZREMAKE said:
@logic340 Quite possibly the best arc in bleach and you call it trash. The anime adaptation is one of the best received anime adaptation right now. It wouldn't be if it were trash.
@logic340 Quite possibly the best arc in bleach and you call it trash. The anime adaptation is one of the best received anime adaptation right now. It wouldn't be if it were trash.
Bleach fell off hard bro. Should've ended much earlier
| @babajeeds I am glad it stayed so we could witness greatness. |
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@FZREMAKE the rescue is probably the best arc in Bleach had it ended there I would have given bleach a 10/10. Some of that reception is due to nostalgia imho.
| @logic340 Soul society arc was better. Aizen's defeat never actually felt right to me so I am glad it continued. So many Bankai reveals and quincy lore drop was missing before tybw arc. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time. |
| I don't think that it needs any fixing. |
| i think bleach even with the rushed ass ending is thousands of times better than whatever jjk had going on but sure mappa can try, although i doubt it will change much, at least for me |
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| No chance Bleach situation is unique, because Kubo rushed the whole thing and was given a chance to redeem himself JJK is broken beyond any saving, you basically to rewrite the whole damn thing for it to make even slightest sense. Animators are NOT doing that. The very best they can do is try to animate it as beautifully as possible + cut off all Gege's annoying overexplanation |
| I'm still not convinced the Bleach redemption arc is not some CIA led social experiment or something. I was there, reading the manga week to week back when it was coming out and everyone and their mother was roasting the shit out of it, and rightfully so, because that shit was FOUL. The anime was even worse, the direction was beyond pedestrian, the pacing glacial. The fight choreography? No such thing was even attempted, characters just swinged their swords around wildly. The only thing the adaptation had going for it was it's kickass Shiro Sagisu composed soundtrack and _nothing else_ Comparatively, there's not much to fix about Jujutsu. The author decided he was done with it just as it had gotten good, and as a result the ending was pretty uninspired which is dissapointing, but hardly as bad as the quincy arc Bleach ended on. |
| Gege lost a lot of chapters towards the end due to his poor health, so I think some events or fights will be extended. I don't see any major change needed. The last few chapters could simply be slowed down or something added.With Bleach it's a bit different because the anime changes and adds a lot. Kubo had much bigger problems because the manga had bad sales and reviews, so he ended it quickly. Now he's saving it a bit. |
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@logic340
Troll? Anyway, I'm not going to bother discussing this with someone who has a prejudiced, negative opinion. Your bullshit doesn’t change the fact that the TYBW in the anime form was a successful adaptation and is one of the best anime of all time. Up to the third cour, there are no issues - unless you're nitpicking minor details that can easily be explained just because you fail to comprehend something in the story. But I won't bother with that, not with someone who has that attitude. I'm tired of it. Just know that you're wrong. TYBW in the manga, especially the first half, was great. Cour 1 was top 1 on MAL for around 6 months for a reason—until it got review-bombed. The second half of this arc in the manga had problems. Maybe it had worse sales, but sales numbers/popularity =/= quality. That’s it from me.
logic340 said:
the entire arc was trash
the entire arc was trash
Troll? Anyway, I'm not going to bother discussing this with someone who has a prejudiced, negative opinion. Your bullshit doesn’t change the fact that the TYBW in the anime form was a successful adaptation and is one of the best anime of all time. Up to the third cour, there are no issues - unless you're nitpicking minor details that can easily be explained just because you fail to comprehend something in the story. But I won't bother with that, not with someone who has that attitude. I'm tired of it. Just know that you're wrong. TYBW in the manga, especially the first half, was great. Cour 1 was top 1 on MAL for around 6 months for a reason—until it got review-bombed. The second half of this arc in the manga had problems. Maybe it had worse sales, but sales numbers/popularity =/= quality. That’s it from me.
| @18927 Wow, someone got aggressive. The comment above is right. I wouldn't call the last arc trash, but it's true that when it came out it had poor reviews and the popularity of the manga decreased from month to month. The fact that the anime is so successful now is mostly due to the nostalgia of old fans, nice animation and a slightly improved plot. I like Bleach but I have to admit with pain that the glory days ended with the first and second longer arc. After that it's repetitiveness and predictability. I rate these new seasons highly because of enostalgia. |
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