combige

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Yoyoyo everyone, a completely serious, apropos of nothing question, to Americans and non-Americans here, what's your opinion on American jokes in LiL? Cause now every time I see Touka just nonchalantly alluding to some random American star (hopefully it doesn't offend anyone here), I don't even bother searching it. I'm like "kay' another anachronism nobody cares" and just go over it. Anime references I'm expecting since it's a visual novel but American culture things...? Does anyone really get it and find it funny or humorous?
More explicitly from the beginning and less with time I catch myself cringing from the author making externally japanese game with american culture code. This concept seems so bs to me, even Sel himself lolled about it somewhere through the game.
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He should've listened.
 

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Throne of the God King indeed!

Here we were talking about hyper-Western/American consciousness in the game--the centrality of actual Christian teachings/traditions is another thing that's a bit odd. I mean, Japanese use of Christian symbolism has been notoriously tonedeaf over the years. Take Evangelion, for example.

I was gonna go off on a whole comparative religion spew about Japanese syncretism, but who wants to read that? :rolleyes:
 

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I was gonna go off on a whole comparative religion spew about Japanese syncretism, but who wants to read that? :rolleyes:
I'm unsure what exactly made you think I wouldn't want to read that :ROFLMAO: I read through moby dick dude's spew the first few times, and I can safely say we respect you way more than him.

But I agree, the use of Christian symbolism is on pair with their use of totally broken "English" sentences for spell chants that make me want to turn my brain off.

Edit: Not that they can't use Christian symbolism, mind you. It's just used in a jumbled nonsensical way a lot of the times.
 

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I still hate this bitch'
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Niki's finger is not straight and I will not be able to unsee that.

I'm unsure what exactly made you think I wouldn't want to read that :ROFLMAO: I read through moby dick dude's spew the first few times, and I can safely say we respect you way more than him.

But I agree, the use of Christian symbolism is on pair with their use of totally broken "English" sentences for spell chants that make me want to turn my brain off.

Edit: Not that they can't use Christian symbolism, mind you. It's just used in a jumbled nonsensical way a lot of the times.
You read through Moby's dick what?
 

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Niki's finger is not straight and I will not be able to unsee that.


You read through Moby's dick what?
Moby Dickler was the name i gave to that dickhead who kept writing novel length posts about all the deranged, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual garbage in his head, i forget their original user name but they changed it to Princess Euphy (sp?) at some point.
 

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IIRC, he usually has ten releases a year. He generally takes June and December off to recharge. So while the fanfest had me worried that we were getting the classic dev burn-out/slow-down, he seems to be pacing himself pretty well.
Hmm, this actually looks like he builds up lead time for "Plot heavy season" then sprinkles in seasonal events and fan service stuff as he catches up to his material. Rinse, repeat.
 

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The first thing came to my mind when I saw that was this immortal artwork. I think it'd serve a great promo image for LiL.
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I was gonna go off on a whole comparative religion spew about Japanese syncretism, but who wants to read that? :rolleyes:
Well to be fair the Japanese syncretism is pretty superficial per se. Take Evangelion as best example, the lore and religious themes were, vaguely recollecting one of the staff's commenting on Christian symbols in it , "flavours" that has nothing substantial per se. It just kept tossing out mysteries and concepts to keep the audience (Somehow reminds me of Twin Peaks, I have same opinion on these two) occupied without a directional totality, which isn't to say there is nothing worth considering in it. Like I got intense interest in Evangelion when I was teenager and I helped me develop maturity in many ways, but that's because Evangelion in its core a psychological bildungsroman, nothing more. Sometimes LiL gives me same vibe too.

I'm unsure what exactly made you think I wouldn't want to read that :ROFLMAO: I read through moby dick dude's spew the first few times, and I can safely say we respect you way more than him.
I miss Princess Euphy. You guys are careless."Boring books come from boring readers, for it is the reader’s searching melancholy which works in books, and not the author’s skill."
 

Detective Dc345

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Moby Dickler was the name i gave to that dickhead who kept writing novel length posts about all the deranged, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual garbage in his head, i forget their original user name but they changed it to Princess Euphy (sp?) at some point.
My wrist started throbbing in pain at the mention of that name.
 

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Well to be fair the Japanese syncretism is pretty superficial per se. Take Evangelion as best example, the lore and religious themes were, vaguely recollecting one of the staff's commenting on Christian symbols in it , "flavours" that has nothing substantial per se. It just kept tossing out mysteries and concepts to keep the audience (Somehow reminds me of Twin Peaks, I have same opinion on these two) occupied without a directional totality, which isn't to say there is nothing worth considering in it. Like I got intense interest in Evangelion when I was teenager and I helped me develop maturity in many ways, but that's because Evangelion in its core a psychological bildungsroman, nothing more. Sometimes LiL gives me same vibe too.
In a way, they are. You have to remember that, while not really superficial, this is at its core, entertainment of sorts. Sure, entertainment probably isn't a word that you'd want to give to LiL, but, be it in a metaphorical, rhetorical, poetical, theoretical or any other fancy way, it can't really reach too deep.
Also, I'm pretty sure your Twin Peaks comment means you're in Sel's shit list.
 
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Syncretism is too difficult word for putting americans into japanese bodies that by anime canons depict caucasians into japanese decorations being american schoolchildren with japanese schoolchildren roles in american schooldrama in japanese schoolbuilding with japanese schoolcurriculum. If I'm not mistaken, 20 years ago Sel just would had been called weaboo, things were simpler.
 
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